Wednesday, September 14, 2005

Democrat's worse nightmare...

...Has just come true.

Source:""Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said during a joint news conference with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani."

So what are the dems going to criticize him for now. He is going to start an investigation, that panel is going to build a timeline (like the 9-11), and that panel is going to find out who did what, where they did it, and what they knew when they did it. Seeing how democrats were in charge of two out of the three levels which could have possibly responded to the hurricane, it looks like they would get hammered more in that investigation than anyone else.

I think the democrats overplayed their hand when they called for an investigation, there are too many eyes and different media outlets to allow them to get escape blame on this one. Admittly, the blame will be placed on local or state level democrats, but still that hurts the party in those areas.

cube

7 comments:

transientforeigner said...

Most of the criticism from Louisiana state and local officials has been directed at FEMA. The most serious charge I have heard is that the city of New Orleans had conducted hurricane simulations drills with FEMA prior to Katrina which had resulted in a contract between the city and FEMA to ensure x amount of resources in x amount of time. City officials have charged that the contract was not upheld and FEMA had, as of my last following of the topic, opted to not comment on the existence of the contract.

Most of the media criticism nationally has also been directed at FEMA. The director of the disaster relief, what was it, Michael Brown, was found to have overstated his resume experience in disaster relief. Apparantly he changed 'Intern' to something to the affect of overseer or "in charge of". So how does one with little to no disaster relief experience get to be in charge of a major relief effort? Work on the president's election campaign.

The last major criticism I can identify is the lack of troops. People have blamed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for this. This may be the weakest of criticisms though still probably deserving of attention.

It seems to me that President Bush personally, and not even the Republican Party is the responsible party for the above criticisms.

There are tons more of criticisms to be launched and many certainly involve the political parties but this is a start of a list of things that Bush personally has to fear from the investigation.

moss said...

The federal government responded to Katrina more quickly and with more people that in either hurricanes Andrew or Hugo. The simple fact is that Katrina would not have been such a disaster if it had occured in Florida or another state that actually took disaster preparedness seriously.

Cubicle said...

Also the local levee board is also responsible for not upgrading the levees. I think they built a few cansios.

Secondly the local goverement did not excute their evacuation plan.

Thridly, the state govenment was slow in accepcting federal help.

President bush decalred the area an disaster zone either three days or two days before the hurricane hit.

Lastly, FEMA's job is not to act as first responders. It is the local government's job (A lot of homeland security money goes toward that goal.)

New Orleans had 40 years to prepare. I know if i had 40 years to prepare, i would surive any hurricane in style.


Also, as far as timly aid was concerned. It is widely expected that in a major disaster that you will be on you own for maybe up to a week. The people who went to the superdome were told to bring enough food and water for 3 to 5 days.

After the first few days I have not heard dems calling for an investigation. I think this is because they know they will get hurt more than it will cause damage to bush.

As far as brown goes, he got his experencie on the job last year.

"Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Security’s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMA’s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before."

http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/brown.shtm

The fact is that their is plenty of blame to pass around. Though when you look at the facts, bush is getting more than his share.

transientforeigner said...

Not a single comment since my initial response refutes any of my points. Cubicles remarks do point out, however, that there is plenty of blame to share. I don't see why democrats at a national level have anything to fear, unless they voted against the proposals to restore and protect the Louisiana coastline, which they may have.

Local politicians however, do have much to fear from an investigation and most Lousiana politicians are indeed Democrats. New Orleans has had a very long time to reinforce those levees but they decided repaving Poydras street (again) was a bigger priority.

The government (New Orleans specifically) did at least, in part, execute the evacuation plan. The hurricane simulations and evacuation tests reinforced the idea that the main responsibilities of the local governmenment (not sure about state) were to issue a timely evacuation order, direct traffic to leave the area as efficiently as possible and get those unable to evacuate to the Superdome and the Superdome. All those things were successes. Nagin has said repeatedly that the plan was never intended to have people in the Superdome for extended periods of time. I expect we'll hear more specifics on what obligations FEMA signed off on and failed to meet.

You may be right in the criticism of the state government. I know little about Blanco, but I know that Nagin held back some words he wanted to say about her and her performance.

Brown getting experience on the job changes nothing about his getting there. Obviously the on-the-job experience wasn't enough. There's plenty of people/organizations to blame but FEMA is going to be found responsible for a lot.

Bush is getting criticized for more than his fair share, agreed. The biggest criticism I have, and that I think will stick, is that his policy of loyalty first (Brown) resulted in a lot of people dying unecessarily.

Cubicle said...

"The biggest criticism I have, and that I think will stick, is that his policy of loyalty first (Brown) resulted in a lot of people dying unecessarily."

You missed the point. It was not fema's job to save them. It was the first responders (ie state and local goverments). Blame the local frist, state second, and the federal goverment last. That is the blame excution order in this situtaion.

"The government (New Orleans specifically) did at least, in part, execute the evacuation plan. "

Except the part of the plan that was supposed to move the ones who where unable to get out of town.

transientforeigner said...

"It was not fema's job to save them. It was the first responders"

And

"Except the part of the plan that was supposed to move the ones who where unable to get out of town."

I will only go so far as to address city efforts, I'll admit I'm clueless as to what the state did or was supposed to have done.

With that said, you again have missed the point I'm afraid. The city did provide open, accessible, public and free transportation to the Superdome for those people who were unable to get out of town. (Criticism is warranted in that the evacuation order was issued somewhat late, thereby limiting the amount of time and opportunities residents had to access that transportation.) That was part of the city's hurricane preparedness/first responder duty.

Once people were sheltered in the Superdome and the storm passed, it became a FEMA responsibility. That is why the Superdome because such a dire situation. The city did a lot to bring people to the designated safety zone and to keep people there. That all backfired when aid and security failed to arrived as indicated in hurricane simulations.

Cubicle said...

"Once people were sheltered in the Superdome and the storm passed, it became a FEMA responsibility. "

Nope. The city told those people to bring enough food and water for 3-4 days. They were on their own.

And how does the responsiblity jump and completely miss one level of govenment (the state).

As you point out, "The city did provide open, accessible, public and free transportation to the Superdome for those people who were unable to get out of town."

And just because the City dropped those people off did not mean that they also left the responsblity. I do not think the superdome was the cities responsblity (because I think that they were on their own if they chose to stay in the city), but it sure was not FEMA's responsblity.

Now if the city had taken those people out of the state, i can see how it became a federal matter, but they didn't